[straylightrise]

"Frost Presence now provides 8% Stamina, up from 6% Stamina.
Icebound Fortitude now provides 30% base damage reduction, up from 20% damage reduction. For a geared tank with high defense, this translates to 50% damage reduction, up from 40%."

A little helpful - doesn't really address TPS issues...

[Ezcoil]

We are going to nerf your stam by 15% and then your armor by 20% and then realize we over did it, albeit after toc togc and icc have been cleared.... so here is a cookie. 2% stam so we can say we did something for you. Your still a terrible class design and should re-roll rogue cause that's all you are is a rogue in plate.

[straylightrise]

Honestly? I think we're more like if a bad lock and a bad ret pally had crazy sex and conceived a bastard child out of that unholy union.

[Ezcoil]

I'm just talking how blizz designed us.

White dmg high source of our dps
Then Poisions (magic for you scrubs)
and a finisher to buff our poisons

this sound familiar to unholy?

Dks are a legit dps class but are poorly designed tanks and will never be properly balanced as things sit with arena and pve tanking. So hope you get a massive overhaul for tanking in cata otherwise might as well just call you a dps hybrid who can tank 5 mans like a fury warrior will be.

[straylightrise]

I thinking with the gear homogenization (which I am VEHEMENTLY opposed too) and talent tree rebuilds they could design a better tanking class. However, to be honest I do feel that there should be a tanking specific tree like feral or prot (war/pally). It would make it easier for the classes but it does break their intended design of the class.

Again

Piss poor planning much like this client I'm working with